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  • Grazzt
    Wanderer of the Mittel March
    • Sep 2006
    • 11

    Good illustrations ?

    I'd like to create an Elric wallpaper, but i cant find any decent illustration !
    All the illustrations i've found for Elric (even in this site) range from (in my opinion) very ugly to...well, kinda acceptable but not good enough for a wallpaper.
    Just to let you know what kind of illustration i have in mind, here are some i find really excellent :
    www.ultimatom.com/1.jpg
    www.ultimatom.com/2.jpg
    www.ultimatom.com/3.jpg
    How come, with a great character like Elric, we dont get high-quality illustrations like these ones ?
  • PsychicWarVeteran
    Flesh Bag of Mostly Water
    • Mar 2004
    • 2554

    #2
    Originally posted by Grazzt
    Just to let you know what kind of illustration i have in mind, here are some i find really excellent :
    www.ultimatom.com/1.jpg
    www.ultimatom.com/2.jpg
    www.ultimatom.com/3.jpg
    How come, with a great character like Elric, we dont get high-quality illustrations like these ones ?
    Art is, of course, purely subjective. You appear to have a very specific taste in fantasy art, but I fail to see how your examples are higher in quality than the works of BROM, Brunner, Whelan, etc. My guess is that the only reason Elric has never been portrayed in the style your examples depict is that that particular artist has never tried his hand at doing Elric.
    "Wounds are all I'm made of. Did I hear you say that this is victory?"
    --Michael Moorcock, Veteran of the Psychic Wars

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    • Grazzt
      Wanderer of the Mittel March
      • Sep 2006
      • 11

      #3
      Yes of course, it's purely subjective, when i talked about "quality" i was more refering to the "graphic quality" of the picture by itself, than to the "artistic quality", which is indeed just a matter of taste

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      • Ulrik Skarsol
        Nomad of the Time Streams
        • Sep 2006
        • 26

        #4
        I have never found an artist that draw the Elric that I have in my mind despise they graphic quality (of th lack of it), but maybe I´m to purist.

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        • Ian
          Ian
          Denizen of Moo Uria
          • Jan 2004
          • 182

          #5
          Originally posted by Grazzt
          Yes of course, it's purely subjective, when i talked about "quality" i was more refering to the "graphic quality" of the picture by itself, than to the "artistic quality", which is indeed just a matter of taste
          It would seem that "graphic quality" is also a matter of taste, since I find
          Brom, Whelan, and Amano to be of fantastic quality ...

          Ian
          Diplomacy: The ability to tell someone to
          go to hell so that they will look forward to
          making the trip.

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          • Michael Moorcock
            Site Host
            • Dec 2003
            • 14278

            #6
            As I've said before, my own image of Elric is Cawthorn's found on the original cover of Stormbringer. The artist illustrated seems more like some who have illustrated French covers.

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            • Grazzt
              Wanderer of the Mittel March
              • Sep 2006
              • 11

              #7
              Woah...
              I'm always amazed to think that you, Michael Moorcock, the one who wrote the books i most love, used to read when i was a kid (and still do now), and filled my nightime dreams and my daytime roleplaying sessions, is actually here answering a question i, little me, asked !!! Thank God for the Internet
              I can see why you like Cawthorn's work, i would say that my favorite is Frank Brunner, but i still have to find a high-quality graphic illustration that i could use as a wallpaper on my PC or put on one of my walls here at home...
              (and to answer Ian, i dont really know how to put it, but what i mean is a maybe more "modern", "realistic", "computer-graphics-like" illustration like the ones i posted in my original post, like PsychicWarVeteran said, maybe it's just because the artists that do the stuff i like never did Elric, and shame on them )

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              • Tales from Tanelorn
                Eternal Champion
                • Dec 2003
                • 2110

                #9
                If you mean this Large Format illustrated Stombringer by James Cawthorn, then this is how Elric and his world looks like to me also. I bought a copy in Manchester in 1983 for 1 quid I think and then somehow lost it lending it out. I recall it was very good indeed and would like to find another copy.

                http://www.savoy.abel.co.uk/HTML/storm.html
                Last edited by Tales from Tanelorn; 10-12-2006, 10:01 AM.

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                • Ian
                  Ian
                  Denizen of Moo Uria
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 182

                  #10
                  Well, I've contacted Miles Teves a few times about whether or not I could
                  commission an Elric drawing from him. Alas, no reply.

                  He was one of the brains behind the roleplaying game Skyrealms of Jorune -
                  he supplied all of the original art. I am blessed to own some of the original
                  pieces he did (most pencil, but some pen).

                  http://www.milesteves.com (warning, some of his work is not child/work safe).

                  http://www.jorune.org

                  Ian
                  Diplomacy: The ability to tell someone to
                  go to hell so that they will look forward to
                  making the trip.

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                  • Grazzt
                    Wanderer of the Mittel March
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 11

                    #11
                    Originally posted by Ian
                    http://www.milesteves.com (warning, some of his work is not child/work safe).
                    Woah, this is excellent stuff, this is exactly what i'm looking for !!!
                    The only thing is, i didnt find anything Elric-related in his illustrations, did i miss something ?

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                    • Grazzt
                      Wanderer of the Mittel March
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 11

                      #12
                      Originally posted by Michael Moorcock
                      I still think it's worth your checking out French editions, maybe via Presse Pocket or Fleuve Noire.
                      Well, i do have the French editions (as i'm French ), but i dont know where i put them, i ordered the american ones a while ago because i wanted to read them in English, without any translator dude rewriting the whole thing...

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                      • voilodian ghagnasdiak
                        Warrior On The Edge
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 2591

                        #13
                        Hello Grazzt.
                        Did you check out Hieronymus's work. I think they are exceptional. Ask his permission to view his Eternal Champion images.

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                        • Grazzt
                          Wanderer of the Mittel March
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 11

                          #14
                          Hieronymus's work ? No, where can i find his work ? Does he have a website or something ? (i guess so, as you say to ask "permission" )

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                          • tvissoc
                            Denizen of Moo Uria
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 100

                            #15
                            Originally posted by Grazzt
                            Hieronymus's work ? No, where can i find his work ? Does he have a website or something ? (i guess so, as you say to ask "permission" )
                            http://www.dalmaziofrau.it/

                            Found on his profile.

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