Who is the EC at "Veteran of Psychic Wars"?

[RitaMaria]

Folks,

I guess a thread like this already was posted at this forum, but... Come on!
I was remembering "Veteran of Psychic Wars", that excellent Blue Oyster Cultآ´s song, penned by Mike and I wonder...
Who is the EC at that song?
These are some opinions I could collect about this matter:
The EC at "Veteran of Psychic Wars" would be:
1) Jerry Cornelius
2) Jerry Corneliusآ´future version
3) Elricآ´s future version
4) Another EC version, that it was featured only at that song.

Hum... I choose the fourth option.

What about you, folks?

Rita.

[David Mosley]

For those (like me) who have never heard this song, here's the lyrics:

You see me now a veteran of a thousand psychic wars
I’ve been living on the edge so long
Where the winds of limbo roar
And I’m young enough to look at
And far too old to see
All the scars are on the inside
I’m not sure that there’s anything left to me

Don’t let these shakes go on
It’s time we had a break from it
It’s time we had some leave
We’ve been living in the flames
We’ve been eating up our brains
Oh please don’t let these shakes go on

You ask me why I’m weary, why I can’t speak to you
You blame me for my silence say It’s time I changed and grew
But the war’s still going on, dear, and there’s no end that I know
And I can’t say if we’re ever...
I can’t say if were ever gonna be free

Don’t let these shakes go on
It’s time we had a break from it
It’s time we had some leave
We’ve been living in the flames
We’ve been eating out our brains
Oh please don’t let these shakes go on

You see me now a veteran of a thousand psychic wars
My energy is spent at last
And my armor is destroyed
I have used up all my weapons and I’m helpless and bereaved
Wounds are all I’m made of
Did I hear you say that this is victory?

Don’t let these shakes go on
It’s time we had a break from it
Send me to the rear
Where the tides of madness swell
And been sliding into hell
Oh please don’t let these shakes go on
Don’t let these shakes go on
Don’t let these shakes go on

(Thanks to DeepFixer for transcribing the lyrics > [broken link] )

[VeteranOfThePsychicWars]

It's option

5) me.

[GuyLawley]

King Silverskin

[DeepFixer]

(Thanks to DeepFixer for transcribing the lyrics > [broken link])

Awww, shucks, t'wern't nuthin' :D

I dunno, Option 4 could be.

I think that it's Option 6: All of the incarnations of the EC, generally speaking.

All of the ECs go through hell, figuratively and literally, so they're all
''young enough to look at and far too old to see'', ''wounds are all I'm made of'', etc.

Saviour of Humanity, Champion of the Balance: the hours are lousy and the pay is really shitty!

[Yisselda]

Could be anyone.

What you can say is he is himself.

Sounds a bit druggy, the shakes thing. No offence intended. Could it be an anti war song? Like a soldier or something.

[Poetgrrl]

i've always felt it be parallel to Elric, really: imagine entire ranks of Elrics, trudging on and on into yet another useless battle. they're exhausted. soul sick. and it's not "victory" until every single one of them accepts their cannon-fodder status, spirits broken. thrown away.

DAYEM is that one DEPRESSING song or WHAT? (it does its job quite well, unfortunately.)

Ehm... did I hear you say Vietnam? I can close my eyes and very easily imagine how a veteran of that particular war might feel this way.

[RitaMaria]

[quote="demos99"]For those (like me) who have never heard this song, here's the lyrics:

You see me now a veteran of a thousand psychic wars
I’ve been living on the edge so long
Where the winds of limbo roar
And I’m young enough to look at
And far too old to see
All the scars are on the inside
I’m not sure that there’s anything left to me

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Demos99, thanks for you have posted the lyrics.

Rita.

[RitaMaria]

It's option

5) me.

:) Yes. It is really a truism:
The Veteran of the Psychic Wars is the Veteran of the Psychic Wars. You are funny, sir. Thanks.

Rita.

[lemec]

Hullo demos,

do you happen to have the lyrics to The Great Sun Jester?

Is the Fire Clown an eternal champion or maybe an erternal villian?

The Winds of Limbo line could refer to him and his comapnion/servant with the transparent skin. :D "The scars are on the inside"

[RitaMaria]

King Silverskin

Hum...
Guy,

A very good and interesting option.
King Silverskin, who we have seen in Mike Moorcockآ´s Multiverse (graphic novel/comics)... Since we can understand he would be, how it was appointed by Yolanda, the sum of all ECs... Worth hypothesis...

Rita.

[lemec]

It's option

5) me.

:) Yes. It is really a truism:
The Veteran of the Psychic Wars is the Veteran of the Psychic Wars. You are funny, sir. Thanks.

Rita.

The EC in the song could be made up of fragments from each of us.

hehe. ;)

[Dead-Air]

[quote=DeepFixer]

(Thanks to DeepFixer for transcribing the lyrics > [broken link]

Awww, shucks, t'wern't nuthin' :D

I dunno, Option 4 could be.

I think that it's Option 6: All of the incarnations of the EC, generally speaking.

All of the ECs go through hell, figuratively and literally, so they're all
''young enough to look at and far too old to see'', ''wounds are all I'm made of'', etc.

Saviour of Humanity, Champion of the Balance: the hours are lousy and the pay is really shitty!

Exactly, it's John Daker. Speaking of which, I noticed that Wikipedia has now added the Moorcock character to the entry on the singer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Daker

That's happened since the last time I posted about the entry, when it wasn't there yet. They still haven't put two and two together quite that maybe the internet phenomena is a bit of a hoax. When you go and name yourself after an Eternal Champion, you just might realize you've created a persona that will kick around the net for a while...

[DeepFixer]

Hullo demos,

do you happen to have the lyrics to The Great Sun Jester?

Is the Fire Clown an eternal champion or maybe an erternal villian?

The Winds of Limbo line could refer to him and his comapnion/servant with the transparent skin. :D "The scars are on the inside"

They have killed the Great Sun Jester
Who danced between the stars
They have stripped him of his manhood
Signs of Venus and of Mars

The cynics left him weeping
And the jackals have left him torn
And the Jester reaches out blind hands
He can touch the stars
No more

And he took the stars
In his hands
And as he scattered them he’d shout
“I’m the joker of the universe
I’m what it’s all about�
Now he’s dying in his grief
And the hard men drag him down
They have killed the wild-eyed jester
They have killed the fire clown

Now his blind eyes seek the starlight
And his fingers seek controls
To take him into space again
Where he was both young and old

The dancer’s stiff with pain
And they’ve made him kneel too long
And the madness they have driven out
They’ve left him cold and sane

And he took the stars
In his hands
And as he scattered them he’d shout
“I’m the joker of the universe
I’m what it’s all about�
Now he’s dying in his grief
And the hard men drag him down
They have killed the wild-eyed jester
They have killed the fire clown

He’ll never
Sing his songs again
He’ll never dance between the stars again
He’ll never
Laugh again
No he’ll never, ever laugh again
Oh no!

He’ll never laugh again
He’ll never laugh again
He’ll never laugh again
He’ll never laugh again
Oh no!
He’ll never, never laugh again

[broken link]

I think he claims to be an Incarnation in 'The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming.'

Though Mr. M says the song isn't about the Fireclown
http://www.novymir.com.au/terminalcafe/boc.html

[Whiskers]

It's option

5) me.

:) Yes. It is really a truism:
The Veteran of the Psychic Wars is the Veteran of the Psychic Wars. You are funny, sir. Thanks.

Rita.

Just to deepen this a bit, it sounds like the life of an ordinary person. Me being a very apt description of who it is.